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egyptianhomeboy
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May 11, 2004 - 04:03 PM |
 
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Hey guys,
I have a tough time with pride, due to my weakness. But how can we fight it? What are ways to keep ourselves from taking up pride? |
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tonyhabibi
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Location: IN THE back of your mind .navagating through your heart , resting in your soul .
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May 11, 2004 - 04:05 PM |
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I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS TOPIC IS SOMEHOW RELATED TO ME .. ? .... |
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egyptianhomeboy
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Location: California
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May 11, 2004 - 04:10 PM |
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| I have a tough time with pride, due to my weakness. |
Its not, Tony. Please believe me...
Please forgive me if you feel that this is directed to you, which it is certainly not. |
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geomekhaiel
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Location: Saint George COC
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May 11, 2004 - 04:15 PM |
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I have to have the most pride ever, it is a REAL tough thing...but also there are many different types of pride. So Micheal, do you think you can tell us a little more about the pride you struggle with. (without saying the exact thing).  |
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egyptianhomeboy
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May 11, 2004 - 04:18 PM |
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 Ok, George! 
Basically, I mean in general. There's a huge variety, too many to mention. I suffer from all of it! I get it a lot while dressed as a deacon and I get it all the time when having a normal conversation. |
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mariam
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May 11, 2004 - 04:32 PM |
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LOL, tony, dont use CAPS, its more funnier when u use caps hahahha.. and nobody is out to get u habeeby.. this is too funny i say! |
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geomekhaiel
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May 11, 2004 - 04:59 PM |
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Micheal,
I think that I can kind of relate....When it comes to being a deacon, then I can give a real good word of advice that my father of confession gave me. He said, "before you learn a hymn, ask yourself, am I doing it for the people or God?"
Than statement either really helped you or made me look very foolish.
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CopticEgyBrother911
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Location: St. Mary's Coptic Orthodox Church, East Brunswick, NJ
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May 11, 2004 - 07:02 PM |
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egyptianhomeboy
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May 11, 2004 - 07:44 PM |
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Thanks George for the advice, and thanks John for the links.
PS - George, you didn't make a fool out of yourself lol.
Mmmmm, fooool! |
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Mathitis
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May 11, 2004 - 08:30 PM |
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| egyptianhomeboy wrote: |
Hey guys,
I have a tough time with pride, due to my weakness. But how can we fight it? What are ways to keep ourselves from taking up pride? |
Well, what do you have to be so proud of? Didn't everything that you have God gave you? If you think about it, you got nothing you have now. God gave it all to you. If you claim "I bought so-and-so", well, my friend, God allwed you to buy it.
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CopticSoldier
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Location: Melbourne, Australia.
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May 11, 2004 - 10:11 PM |
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Read the first 4 chapters of unseen warfare on submission (good stuff), repentance is a call to move from making ego the centre of our life to God. If we submit our will to God He will grant us humility, its an unusual virtue because it can't be obtained by effort...
Thats a start and from there pride can be overcome.
God bless,
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egyoutlaw
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Dont forget devil's downfall was pride, Theres a book written by the Pope called The Virtue of Humility....
Please pray for me |
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egyptianhomeboy
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May 12, 2004 - 03:54 PM |
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Helps a lot, thanks guys.
CS - I'm gonna have to check those chapters out, thanks! |
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EgyTony
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Location: Orlando/Tallahassee, FL
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May 12, 2004 - 09:24 PM |
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Read the first couple of chapters in Ascending the Heights
and then just pray about it |
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sandra
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Location: CA, Saint Marina Coptic Orthodox church
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May 12, 2004 - 09:38 PM |
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Remmber that God gave you everything that you have and its a blessing to have all what you have!! And remmber to pray and ask him to help you because "with men all men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible" Mathew19: 26
hope it kinda of helped!!! |
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Idiqut
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Yes, these are all fine suggestions. Or you can let me berate you until you cry. This would help. |
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Mathitis
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May 23, 2005 - 06:09 AM |
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| Yes, these are all fine suggestions. Or you can let me berate you until you cry. This would help. |
LOL! That can work.
One way I know is to always put your sins and downfalls in front of you. That way, you would have nothing to be proud of. Just make sure this doesn't get rid of your self-esteem either, or you're in big doo-doo.
God bless,
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aguirguis
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May 23, 2005 - 05:31 PM |
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You can also read the chaper about "Blessed are the poor in spirit" in pope shenouda's book called "Contemplations on the Sermon on the Mount"
You can find it here: http://www.coptnet.com/Pope.htm |
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aaboseif
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Location: San Jose, CA
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May 23, 2005 - 07:51 PM |
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Greetings all,
We had a lesson several weeks ago about "Pride as an Obstacle to Repentance" based on the readings of week 3 of the Great Lent (Isaiah 8-13). Perhaps it will be of some benefit. Many of the ideas are summarized from "Ascending the Heights" (mentioned above) and, in turn, the Ladder of Divine Ascent by Saint John Climacus.
You can download it here:
http://www.stgeorgechurch.org/pafiledb/ ... ile&id=189
Wishing you all a joyous Holy Fifty Days. God Bless,
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