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tonyhabibi
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Jul 17, 2005 - 09:00 PM |
 
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since i have no chance to defend myself because the thread was locked .. i woudl like to open this thread for a short period of time get some responses then for the benifit of the site ..close the thread and move on and continue to offer and inspire the world ...
now to my defense ...
in the very beginning . i stressed the fact at how i was looking at this missionary work as being a good thing and i would also like to be a part of it .. i think they are doing a marvelous service and i admire each and everysingle one of them in the virgin islands ...
but i only had a problem with the journal entieries ..
after i stated my opinion .. here are some of the points raised up by pauls ...
pauls stated ..
" 2. Who are you to judge these servants? Who am I? What power has God granted us to judge others in their service? "
i am aware i have no authority on how to serve god .. but that is not to suggest i dont have an opinion becuase i indeed do have an opinion ..thats one of the main purposes for the shay and biskot section on these forums .is to give your opinion ...( who am i 2 give advice ? ) i am no one of high authority .. but i will give my opinion on subject matters ..
pauls also stated ... You already know Carol as one of the nicest, most decent people you'll ever meet. She probably isn't capable of the arrogrance to which you ascribe her. Aren't you ashamed to critique her and her service publicly like this when you know she won't be able to answer you from the Virgin Islands?
i never questioned her charachter or her personality .. i just questioned the way she was going about the missionary work in the virgin islands .. even she herself made a thread about " how to prepare for missionary work " .. i should have given my worthless advice there but i didnt think it was useful at the time .. carol is indeed a good friend and one of my few friends on the site i hope this fact has not changed ... i will be her number # 1 fan forever .. but nonthless i have an opinion ..... and second of all .. carolb has been posting journal enteries through the help of her friend and posting pictures .. through the internet every day and has indeed replied to my thread about the virgin islands ... so how does she not have internet over there ? ....
pauls also stated
. "Let he who has committed no sin cast the first stone." I take it by your criticisms that you and your friend have served the Lord perfectly throughout your lives. Please, share with us how you attained perfection, so people like me and Carol can learn"
and my reply is ..
it was in your opinion and your guessing in which u concluded that i have served the lord " perfectly " .. this is not true .... i am a man of many sins .. we all knwo whats right from wrong .. and i am no one to judge i am not sitting on gods throne .. but again i do have an opinion . and i have read the bible .. and u know better then i that there are verses deticated to saying not to wave big flags when helping others and not to complain when things are going badly .. i think there is a specific verse on fasting where jesus christ himself goes ..im not quoteing exactly ..cuz i dont have the time to search through to find the actual verse but if its needed to further prove my point i will do so .. jesus goes .." when u fast .. do not walk around tired and beat up , looking pale so that others may know your fasting ....no . . make your cheeks red and talk loud and perk up .... for fasting is between u and god " ( i know i terribly misquoted jesus christ im sorry .. but if anyone has read the bible .. they will know the verse i speak of .. if u need me to find it tell me and i will find it .. so in conclusion i do find rather a higher number of complaining passages in the journal .. but of course carolb thanks the lord for every blessing and this is restoreing her humbleness .. i have nothing but love for carol ..im sorry if im comming off harsh .. im just stateting my opinion ..
pauls also stated ... When you decided to post this open judgment and criticism in your head, who do you think motivated you? Was it God or Satan? Who do you think is happier now, God or Satan? "
my reply ...
i am neither god nor satan to answer u .. but i do know that god desires humblness ..and i do knwo god wants us to focus on the good and remain positive .. that i do know ..
pauls also stated ..
" Who told you these servants are enjoying French manicures, champagne, and all of the other luxuries you listed? "
my reply ... i was clearly being sarcastic when i made those statements inorder to prove a point .. anyone who studies common logic .. ( especially a lawyer ) should realize that ..
finally pauls has concluded
" My opinion is that Egyptians especially will always find a way to stick a needle in their brother's eye, even if the brother is looking at them with love. This thread is a good example. "
my reply to that statement is ..
im not egyptain .im lebanese .. . and stop generalizeing your own people .... becuase the generalization u listed above is a world wide issue not just a issue thats a majority in the egyptian culture .. next time dont just make up your own statistics ..
now to conclude my defense ... ( im sure i will have to defend it later even more ...) .. i would liek to say .. that carol i hope i didnt offend u ( even tho i think i did ) i am sorry if that is the case .. those were not my intentions .. all i was trying to do is being a journal writer myself and a christian and a fan of your literary talents .. i was merley giving u my opinion in how u should write about your adventours .. forgive me if i have offended anyone .. but .. these are coptichymn.net forums . and the shay and biskot section has a majority of its posts based on members personal opinions ..
feel free to comment .. and if u are men and women of charachter .. please leave this sophisticated ( in my opinion ) thread open and lets talk about this instead of being quick to lock it ...
passionalty ,
tonyhabibi ( remeber me ? )
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Jul 17, 2005 - 09:08 PM |
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Tony,
This may be the Shay and Biskot section, but that does not necessarily mean you're free to rant and rave about things that probably should be discussed privately.
Since you admit that you are in no position of authority to judge another servant and that your posts constitute only your opinion, allow me to thank you for your opinion.
Carol already told you that your post was hurtful to many of the people in the Virgin Islands now, which makes me wonder why on earth you wish to continue. Regardless, I'm not inclined to let you continue, so this thread is closed.
If you want, I will address each of your points over PM, AIM, or even telephone, but not here, because this is not what I want to see in our forums. Forgive me if I offend.
GBU,
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