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josephmekhaiel
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Sep 04, 2005 - 09:26 PM |
 
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hey guys
any of you heard of a religion called 7th Day Adventist church well I have a friend that is part of this church and I told her I would try to learn about her church and she says she will learn about mine so im asking you guys if you ever heard about them please tell me about them and how we are alike and different from them. I would also like to know ways on how they are wrong if any lol again let me know anything you might know THANK YOU
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sparrowchild
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Sep 04, 2005 - 10:26 PM |
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You've got to be kidding!
After spending 50 years of my life as an Adventist, I spent 3 years studying the early church and the coptic faith. I was baptised into the COC last January.
But then again I've told my story so much, that I'm tempted to think you're trying to jerk my rope (I have brothers who do it all the time.)
As far as I know, I'm the only Adventist to convert to CO. (The SDA church is small and tight.)
They have a saying that once you're an Adventist, you can't be anything else.
So my first response is, if you are serious about this, you are headed into deep water. Make sure the girl is open to the truth; if she isn't you'll really mess with her head.So convince me you're both serious and want more info.
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Sep 04, 2005 - 10:49 PM |
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lol sparrow I had no idea you were 7th Day Adventist before you where co but im serious about this topic I want her to learn about because so its only fair that I learn about her church I do want more info from you i would think you would know the most because you were one once so please help and why did you change im not looking at her as a wife lol just as a friend no way i would marry outside my church mushkela kibera would happen lol |
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josephmekhaiel
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Location: California
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Sep 04, 2005 - 10:51 PM |
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that post was from me not from a guest sorry |
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Sep 05, 2005 - 12:56 AM |
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Tit for tat. Adventists don't believe in marrying outside of their faith, either. However, from where I stand as an ex-SDA, marrying an Adventist was the biggest mistake of my life. Except for his gene pool--lol---I have two handsome and talented sons from that union. If I may digress for a moment, would a co from Egypt ever consider marrying a converted American co? Most people in church look at me sideways, that's why I wonder.
Well then,briefly and for a start, things CO's need to know about SDA's to facilitate discussion:
1.Adventists believe that the universal church is composed of all who truly believe in Christ, but in the last days, a widespread time of apostasy, a remnant has been called out to keep the (10)commandments of God (including sabbath fri night to Sat. sundown) and the faith of Jesus.
2.The Lord's Supper, offered once each quarter, is a participation in the emblems of the body and blood of Jesus. Foot washing is also practiced as a reminder of humility.
3.God bestows upon every member spiritual gifts to build up the church. When members employ these spiritual gifts as faithful stewards of God, the church is protected from the destructive influence of false doctrines.
4.One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifest in the ministry of Ellen G. White. As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction and correction.
5. The 10 commandments are the precepts that form the basis of God's covenant with his people and the standard of God's judgement...The fruitage of salvation is obedience to the 10 Commandments.
6. The beneficient Creator, after 6 days of creation, rested on the 7th day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The 4th commandment of God's unchangable law requires the observance of this 7th day as the day of the Sabbath....The Sabbath is God's perpetual sign of of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. [SDA's consider themselves as the 2nd Israel].
7.Stewardship: 10% tithe, 10% offering
8.Behavior: simple dress, no jewelry, eat no unclean meat (Lev.) and preferably no meat at all, of course no alcohol, tobacco, drugs, swearing.
9. There is a sanctuary in heaven, the true tabernacle which the Lord set up and not man. In it Christ ministers on our behalf, making available to believers the benefits of His atoning sacrifice offered on the cross. Christ was inaugurated as our great High Priest and began His intercessory ministry at the time of His ascension. In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the 2nd and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgement which is a part of the ultimate disposition of sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement...There's a lot more to this...
10.Christ's coming is imminent.
11. First resurrection for resurrected righteous, and living righteous. 2nd resurrection of unrighteous happens 1000 years later. The thousand years in between are called the millenium, during which time the wicked will be judged. Battle of Armagedon at end; fire from God will consume sinners and cleanse earth.
There's more...much more. Adventists carry a heavy burden and church is usually very somber.
I can't say more tonight. It brings back so much sadness.
You can probably infer from these FEW insights, what Adveentists need to know about our Coptic Orthodox faith.
But I'll post the view from where I stand tommorrow.
Much love,
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tadark1
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Sep 05, 2005 - 01:16 AM |
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How are you people posting as guest? |
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sparrowchild
Posts: 49
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Sep 05, 2005 - 01:49 AM |
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Forgot to log in, I guess.
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josephmekhaiel
Posts: 207
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Location: California
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Sep 05, 2005 - 01:52 AM |
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sparrow can u tell me what made you change and do you have a messinger so i can im you lol |
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sparrowchild
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Sep 05, 2005 - 02:14 AM |
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Please feel free to e-mail me at
lindaflugel@yahoo.com
I don't know how to do the instant message thing.
I'll be happy to tell you why I changed, but most people don't think like I do :/??!
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josephmekhaiel
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Sep 05, 2005 - 07:43 PM |
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does anyone have anymore info to add i need to know more lol plzzzzzzzzz |
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josephmekhaiel
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Sep 05, 2005 - 08:36 PM |
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Sep 06, 2005 - 04:16 AM |
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i cant log in... but ill post as a guest
josephmekhaiel,
after reading the first sentence of the link that you just posted, i found something wrong with the 7th day adventist church. THEIR CHURCH WAS NOT FOUNDED BY AN APOSTLE OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. THIS CHURCH DOES NOT HAVE APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION AND THEREFORE DOES NOT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT! THE BEAUTY OF THE COPTIC CHURCH IS THAT IT WAS FOUNDED BY SAINT MARK, AN APOSTLE OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
since the 7th day adventist church was not founded through THE APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION, it must be created from someone who broke off from another church. and this is how we have mormonism, protestants, pentecostals, baptists, presbyterians, jehovah's witnesses, 7th day adventists, and the list continues on and on...
well i hope i helped
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mikehabashi
Posts: 42
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Location: Saint Mary and Saint Verena COC, Anaheim, CA
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Sep 06, 2005 - 04:19 AM |
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i finally am able to log in.... wipeee!
btw i was the last poster...
so NOW, i can say PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
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sparrowchild
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Sep 06, 2005 - 10:40 AM |
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You are absolutely correct.
But Adventists don't know about apostolic succession. They are born Adventist and their parents train them up to be Adventist, they go to private Adventist grade schools and colleges.
That's why I say the CO have a job to do. The Lord brought you to America to help us find what we're looking for. We need the knowledge, as a country, now! I teach in one school building of 1300 kids, and none of their families, nor any staff member has ever heard of Orthodox. They think I'm talking about "a new kind of religion". Please, you should not keep this treasure to yourself.
In Christ,
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