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menas
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Dec 10, 2005 - 07:47 AM |
 
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Hi Guys,
I was wondering if anyone can help me find the text for the Axios that is said for the newly ordained ranks (i.e. Epsaltos, Oghnostos, Subdeacons) in both english and Coptic.
Thanks again for the help.
In Christ,
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geomekhaiel
Posts: 1726
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Location: Saint George COC
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Dec 10, 2005 - 10:09 PM |
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Axios: Axios: Axios: (the name of the person) and then their rank. For example, my name is George and therefore, when i got ordained they said:
Axioc@ Axioc@ Axioc@ Gawergioc Pidikeoc
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Guest
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Dec 10, 2005 - 11:53 PM |
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It wouldnt be Dhikeos, George..hehe. Are u sure they said "Worthy, George the righteous"? lol
It was probably Georgios pi dhiakonos |
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geomekhaiel
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Location: Saint George COC
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Dec 11, 2005 - 12:45 AM |
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lol....i mean
diakwn
...sorry, it was a accident...really! haha 
George Mekhaiel |
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Dec 11, 2005 - 12:53 AM |
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Thanks George. I got what you meant. But do you have the more generic one? I heard Anba Basantee say it once but I cannot remember it. I mean what if you have 10 ppl being ordained? Would you say them all or is there a more generic one time thing?
Thanks so much.
In Christ,
Mina |
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menas
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Dec 11, 2005 - 12:55 AM |
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Sorry the guest above was my reply but I was not loged on the site. ooops |
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amakar55
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Sep 29, 2007 - 03:42 AM |
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Axioc axioc@ axioc nefrefsemsi ni`'altoc
Axioc axioc@ axioc nefrefsemsi niagnwctwc
Axioc axioc@ axioc...niupodiakwn
...nidiakwn
... niar,ydiakwn
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Remnkemi
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Sep 30, 2007 - 10:05 PM |
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I'd like to make a little correction. The proper Greek term is not "oghnostos". It is anagnostos. The arabic word is a corrupted form of the Greek. Therefore, it should read
Axiox axioc axioc niebiaik `nanagnoctoc
. You could change
niebiak
for
nirefsemsi
. That's ok.
While you could say
nefrefsemsi
, it is awkward. You start by saying, "You (plural) are worthy" and then you specify who the "you" are: "the servants." It is a little awkward to specify the you as "his servants". Agan in the plural form. Changing tense like this does occur in some Coptic texts but this is the exception. It is frowned upon in Greek and English. It's ok in Arabic and there are some Arabicism in certain Coptic texts. But for the most part, keep the tenses the same.
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amakar55
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May 17, 2008 - 05:16 PM |
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I didn't know that the Arabic and Greek "Oghnostos" was incorrect. Yeah, that is true for changing
niebiaik
instead of
nirefsemsi
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asinner
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May 20, 2008 - 03:48 PM |
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when you say axios for more then one person you use the term axeyee
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