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coptickander
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can we marry catholics? ive heard different answers. what are the guidelines? |
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mixahl
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carolb
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Joined: Mar 24, 2004
Location: Southern California
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Sep 28, 2006 - 10:12 AM |
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In order for someone who is Coptic Orthodox to marry an individual who is Catholic, the person of Catholic faith must be baptized in our church. Check out these Q&As from the Southern Diocese website:
http://www.suscopts.org/q&a/index.php?catid=253 |
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Meghalo05
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Joined: Jan 17, 2005
Location: St. Mary and St. Mark Coptic Orthodox Church of Indianapolis, IN
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Sep 28, 2006 - 01:39 PM |
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Prior to my parents' marriage my mom, being Catholic, was anointed by the Holy Myron prior to getting married, and did not need to be rebaptized. His Grace Bishop Elija, Bishop of Khartoum, Sudan, officiated this and anointed her with the Holy Myron prior to their marriage, and he himself (at that time abouna elia) presided and served at the crowning ceremony giving his approval. My mom, then again was baptized in the Catholic church by Full Immersion which differs from most present day catholics who baptize by sprinkling. So with regards to having to be baptized again I am not too sure. I also know that His Grace Bishop Antonios Markos permits Eastern Orthodox Christians to partake of the Holy Mysteries and the sacraments only if they are anointed with the Holy Myron. He does not rebaptize them. Sorry for rambling.
Happy Feast of the Cross!
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catcouta
Posts: 300
Joined: Mar 13, 2004
Location: Virgin Mary COC, Mtl, Canada
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Oct 05, 2006 - 02:56 PM |
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| My mom, then again was baptized in the Catholic church by Full Immersion which differs from most present day catholics who baptize by sprinkling. |
I don't think it's the way people are being baptized more than it is the faith of one church. one of our fathers the Bishops was talking with us this weekend and he was saying how some of the syrian priests don't baptize by immersion and yet our Church are still in full communion with them, because we believe in the same baptism.
the Roman Catholic Church does not believe in baptism as a means to salvation, whereas the Orthodox Churches believes that unless one is baptized he or she cannot be saved. |
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Ann
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Joined: Oct 05, 2006
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Oct 05, 2006 - 07:28 PM |
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The Catholic Church does indeed teach that one must be baptized in order to be saved. It's a doctrine of the faith.
--Ann
PS: It's not sprinkling, it's really dousing. They do get really wet. And immersion is an acceptable form of baptism, as long as it is done in the proper trinitarian formula. |
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garywbush
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Joined: Aug 30, 2006
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Oct 20, 2006 - 06:45 PM |
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| can we marry catholics? ive heard different answers. what are the guidelines? |
A non-Chalcedonian Copt man cannot marry a Melkite Copt woman or a Catholic Copt woman.
The penalty for inter-religious marriage is ex-communication, or under the laws of Eritrea, death by the firing squad.
Eritrea is the world's only non-Chalcedonian theocracy |
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Matzpah
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Joined: Jul 05, 2005
Location: Nativity of Our Lord, Virginia
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Feb 10, 2008 - 03:11 PM |
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"The penalty for inter-religious marriage is ex-communication, or under the laws of Eritrea, death by the firing squad.
Eritrea is the world's only non-Chalcedonian theocracy"
Geez...I guess whoever is without sin fires the first bullet. |
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Epideacon
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Joined: Apr 26, 2006
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Feb 10, 2008 - 03:27 PM |
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Generally what religion you are doesn't matter or doesn't make much difference if you're not actively practicing or just not too keen on religion at all. But for us Copts of course, religion is our whole lives. I always recommend trying to marry someone from the same religion and the same background, just to avoid all the confusion and controversy. |
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Noosa_1978
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Location: Jersey City, NJ
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Feb 11, 2008 - 07:19 PM |
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Well if a coptic person wants to marry a catholic in our church, they would have to be baptized in our church. I had a friend in that situation. She is coptic and he has catholic. They wanted to marry in our church. So he got baptized before they got married. |
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HonoringGod
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Location: Southern Cal
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There are two types of outside the faith marriages. The first being a union between two Christians of different faiths, and the second being the union between a Christian and someone outside the faith. Marriage between two Christians from two different Christian faiths is not wrong if both churches agree with the union. In other words both churches have a say in whether they will be allowed to marry or not. I have seen cases were one side agrees, but the other doesn't. If they still get married, it is the priest who decides if they are accepted or not, or to tell them what they need to do to become accepted.
My cousin (who is Coptic) married a Greek Orthodox girl in vegas because the priest in his church had influnced the Greek priest to not allow the marriage (he wanted her to be rebaptized in the Coptic church). They were accepted into the Greek Orthodox church, but are not accepted in the Coptic church.
A friend of the family married a Catholic girl. She recieved baptisim by sprinkling of water. She is accepted in both churches.
Marriages between churches is at the discresion of the priest(usually the father of confession). If he does not agree or the couple does not wish to be rebaptized, then the marriage is not considered part of the church and they are excommunicated.
Marriage outside of the faith is unacceptable because of the many problems that can occur, especially with the children. There are a few exceptions to this rule. One of the most famous egyptian singers married a muslim guy to continue singing(I don't remember her name). She uses her money to help the church and her influence to help convert people into the church.
I hope this helps.
Your friend in Christ,
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