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jydeacon
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Jan 24, 2008 - 07:04 PM |
 
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Hey do any of you guys know when the Khedmit al shamas that the Southern Diocese is making is coming out or if it is already out? Or if not that, any good Khedmit al shamas in english, i have the brown Coptic Hymns book but its very incomplete and has some mistakes. Thanks in advance guys |
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Kalax
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Jan 25, 2008 - 10:01 AM |
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Aghapy,
You may like HCOC servant Deacon Albier Mikhail's DSB. It has an English Table of Contents. So, it's easy to find hymns for English speakers. The rest of the DSB is in Coptic and Arabic. However, all the rites have been translated into English and uploaded to the HCOC site.
oh, there's no doubt that this book is complete and accurate AND updated with the latest decisions of the Holy Synod.
The Book:
http://www.copticheritage.org/Productions.phtml
The Rite's:
http://www.copticheritage.org/index.php?name=PagEd&topictoview=21 |
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jydeacon
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Jan 25, 2008 - 11:26 AM |
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Thanks Kalax, do you happen to know when the one by the Southern Diocese is coming out? i was aware of Albeirs book but i didn't know it had an english table of contents, i thought it was all in arabic and coptic. Thanks for that. |
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David_the_King
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Location: St. Abanoub and St. Antony COC Norco, California
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Jan 25, 2008 - 02:25 PM |
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Oh no, it has English table of contents and pages. It is REALLY easy to navigate through the book. It's simply GREAT! lol also if you need to read the arabic, just post the hymn in coptic and the page number..and me or anyone that can read Arabic with that book will translate it for you. |
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jydeacon
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Jan 25, 2008 - 02:51 PM |
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Thanks David_the_King i appreciate that greatly, do you happen to know when the one by the Southern Diocese will come out? |
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David_the_King
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Location: St. Abanoub and St. Antony COC Norco, California
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Jan 25, 2008 - 04:19 PM |
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They have been working on it for some time now. That and the new psalmody book. But I don't know when they will be done with them. Sorry. |
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cyriliv
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Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Jan 26, 2008 - 07:57 AM |
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I'll believe it when I see it; they could at least publish up dates concerning these projects.
Anyways...back to my 12 different agpeyas, 6 psalmodies, 5 euchologians... all with broken English.
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gargousa
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Location: Texas
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Jan 26, 2008 - 09:34 AM |
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We are very close to publishing the Deacons' service book.
We are putting the finishing touches on it, and then it will be reviewed by H.G. Bishop Youssef and then sent to the publisher.
Currently, there are 2 books are the publisher:
+ 2nd Edition of the Liturgy book.
+ 1st Edition of the distribution melodies book.
These will be available very soon. |
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Overgrownegyptian
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Location: St. Mary and St. George COC [tallahassee, fl] l St. George COC [tampa, fl]
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Jan 26, 2008 - 12:48 PM |
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The 2nd edition of the Liturgy book is available for ordering as well as the 1st edition of the melodies book.
The Service of the Deacons book is now with His Grace Bishop Youssef for final proofing and within the next few weeks it will be sent over to Egypt to the publisher to be made. God willing it will be coming out very soon! |
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aguirguis
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Jan 26, 2008 - 03:33 PM |
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just out of curiosity, how does the Service of the Deacons books compare/contrast to Deacon Albier Mikhail's DSB? |
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MSoliman
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Jan 26, 2008 - 07:58 PM |
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This is the first time I've visited in a while-- nice to see this thread resurface.
As Overgrownegyptian (Andrew) and Gargousa (Gerges) said, the book is in its final stages currently...
I know that I said this a few years back, but this is the read thing now. It was (unfortunate for us) placed second-in-priority to the Second Ed of the Diocese Liturgy book, which is now printed and for sale.
That said, the Service of the Deacons should only have another few weeks-month until it gets back from final review, then one last proof for table of contents cleaning, preface, appendiceal and index insertion, and an overall style proof...
I'll post back as soon as I've got more info regarding a time frame.
Regarding what's in it, it's basically 4 books combined into one (i.e., liturgy book, complete book of rites, complete tamgeed book, complete khidmat al-shamaas)-- all well-translated and thoughtfully organized. Three languages throughout (Coptic, non broken English, and Arabic). Primary language of the book (i.e., language of the Rites) is English, but that said, every single hymn is presented in all three languages (even Ya kool al sefoof for the Resurrection).
- Complete hymns for the offering of morning and evening incense, all three divine liturgies
- Complete hymns for all seasons, fasts/feasts, etc
- Extensive Rites for Agpeya, Tasbeha, offering of morning/evening incense, liturgies, all fasts/feast of the year, Holy week, Tamgeed, all special occasions (e.g., ordinations, funerals, weddings, baptisms, etc)
- A section for preparatory prayers for deacons while going to church and their instructions
- The hymns for all of the fasts/feasts are organized by Coptic month, rather than arranged like Albeir's book... This way the taqs for the coptic month can be appreciated and the flow of the book is more logical and organized.
Anyway, there's much more to it...
Please pray for this project and we'll keep you all posted.
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jydeacon
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Jan 27, 2008 - 11:47 AM |
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Thanks guys for all your help, God Bless this service.
Msoliman Please keep us posted with the progress of this book
God Bless and Pray for me and my weakness, |
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gargousa
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Jan 27, 2008 - 06:59 PM |
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Just to give you an idea of the magnitute of this work, the book is over 600 pages, and we've been working on this project for about 10 years (or so it seems), so you can imagine the amount of work put in it.
It contains the rites and hymns of all the sacraments, and even prayers like: funerals, engagements, rite of receiving a new priest, first bathing, and much more. |
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AMoussa01
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Location: St. George and St. Joseph in San Jose California
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Jan 27, 2008 - 07:20 PM |
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God bless you guys and may the Lord reward everyone who helped contribute! I cant wait until it comes out, inshallah this year i hope 
GB
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bigpun230
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Jan 29, 2008 - 09:25 PM |
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WOWOWAAWEEEWAAAA, I WANT FIRST DIBS, LOL.....sounds like a great effort about to pay off its fruits of labor, i feel like im awaiting the next harry potter book..........
i was totally joking |
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cyriliv
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Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Jan 30, 2008 - 07:59 AM |
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Agape
God bless you and the fruit of your labors. If there is any way I can help with any of the projects the diocese is doing please let me know-PM me.
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SaintMina
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Mar 04, 2008 - 05:08 PM |
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Overgrownegyptian
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Mar 04, 2008 - 08:17 PM |
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His Grace Bishop Youssef is extremely busy. I actually emailed him about 2 weeks ago and just this past weekend I saw His Grace Bishop Youssef and he told me he hasn't checked his email for 2 weeks, so he is really quite busy. God willing when I see him tomorrow night I will ask him what's the progress and I will get back to you. God willing it won't be much longer 
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jydeacon
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MSoliman
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Mar 05, 2008 - 01:04 PM |
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Update:
The Service of the Deacons is literally in its final stretch... It's being reviewed by one of the editors and will be sent to HGBY in about a day or so for his final and official review/stamp/blessing. At that point, it's off to Egypt for print.
We ended up adding ALL of the doxologies and verses of the cymbals for all of the annual/standard days, as well as all fasts/feasts: although it delayed us about 10 days or so, it was worth the wait, no doubt.
We're down to days/weeks, not months/years.
Pray for the completion of this project. |
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petermansour
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Mar 05, 2008 - 03:08 PM |
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I can't wait for this book to come out! Just for clarification, it says that the book will have
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- Extensive Rites for Agpeya, Tasbeha, offering of morning/evening incense, liturgies, all fasts/feast of the year, Holy week, Tamgeed, all special occasions (e.g., ordinations, funerals, weddings, baptisms, etc)
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So the book will just have the Rites, or will it contain the actual services, im guessing not Holy week and the agbeya, cause that would make it a 234235656856 page book lol but yea thanks in advance and God bless your service! |
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jydeacon
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Mar 05, 2008 - 04:40 PM |
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Thanks for the update, please keep us updated and let us know when we can order them |
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kastor999
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Mar 06, 2008 - 04:26 PM |
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the book IS in its final stages because i was contacted to provide (or give ,humbly,permission) coptic decorations ...like the blue cross that is my avatar |
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SaintMina
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Mar 06, 2008 - 04:29 PM |
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So would it be safe to say it would be done in a couple of weeks? Like ready to buy and ship? |
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MSoliman
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Mar 07, 2008 - 04:14 AM |
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| So would it be safe to say it would be done in a couple of weeks? Like ready to buy and ship? |
it would NOT be safe to say that.
the book will likely be at the printer within a few weeks. from that point, printing takes some time-- i will update the forum with a more solid estimate when one becomes apparent. |
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